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                    <text>Benjamin Grueter
Gen Con Project
UW-Parkside
December 5, 2024

____________
Email: November 1, 2024
Hi there!
I attended my first Gen Con while it was at Parkside. I believe that was back in 1981.
Later, I attended UWP, studying economics, before transferring to UW-Madison in 1984. I also worked at
the Parkside Ranger, both as an editor and a cartoonist, where my comic strip WILD LIFE ran.
I now work full-time in the tabletop industry, having illustrated thousands of cards for the D&amp;D parody
game Munchkin, as well as being part of the team that created Apples to Apples. I’ve illustrated many,
many other tabletop games during my career, including the Kobolds Ate My Baby roleplaying game.
My comic strip DORK TOWER centers around gamers, and will celebrate its 30th anniversary in 2026. It
was one of the very first webstrips, and features the character Carson the Muskrat - a holdover from my
old WILD LIFE strip.
DORK TOWER was also published in Dragon Magazine, when it was a print publication.
Obviously, I’ve close ties to UWP, and I’d be happy to help with this project if needed.
Best,
John Kovalic
Bespoke Cartoonist
DORK STORM PRESS
PO Box 156
Waunakee
WI 53597-156

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                    <text>Benjamin Grueter
Gen Con Project
UW-Parkside
December 5, 2024

______________
Email: November 1, 2024
Other tidbits: in the first couple of years that GenCon was held at Parkside:
- The dealer area was mostly in the Plaza at Wylie hall, with some speading to the south into greenquist
(but not much) If I recall correctly.
Auctions were held in Greenquist on east side of the main 'boulevard' as it were.
Policing the dealer area was of concern, but I seem to recall that there was a lot of 'shrinkage' on the part
of the dealers. Once the dealer area moved to the UWP Fieldhouse, this got easier to restrict access to.
Key dealers: Lou Zocchi - for his seriously improved D&amp;D dice (durability - the TSR dice were now very
durable at all)
The wargamers club ('PAW') had a room: Molinaro101, I think. Sponsored by the history dept.
Other notable contemporaries: Jon Kovalik (cartoonist: Dork Tower) was a founder of the dart club (they
were in the d2 bowling area of the student union)
Thanks for the response, let me know if you have other inquiries re: that era, and I'll try to provide more
details.
P.S. I can also provide more details regarding Racine History (a side project of mine)
Richard
___________
Email: November 2, 2024
*Additional notes by Bruce Carson*

�Rick,
A couple of corrections:
--The PAW was in Molonaro 130
--The Auction was held in lecture hall Molonaro 101
Bruce
___________________
Formal Contact Made November 13, 2024
___________________
Email: November 13, 2024
Give me some questions, and I'll try to answer (to shorten an on-line interview).

Extra info for you: I do not know how TSR initially connected with the PAW (parkside wargamers). For
that, you might want to contact Steve Bill (sjb@asgoth.com) and Ralph 'Skip' Williams. Other datapoints
that might be relevant: Steve Horn and Bruce Carson (you've got their email addresses in prior notes)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skip_Williams

Skip Williams - Wikipedia
Born in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, Williams was informally acquainted
with many of the people who developed and influenced the original
Dungeons &amp; Dragons game, going to school with Gary Gygax's son
Ernie and participating in a gaming group that Gary used to playtest
some of the AD&amp;D rules. [1] Williams started out working as a
part-time clerk in TSR's Dungeon Hobby Shop in 1976.
en.wikipedia.org

My first GenCon was at Parkside in '75 or '76. Whichever year it was - It was the 2nd year that GenCon
was at Parkside if I recall correctly.

�I did not get directly involved with PAW/TSR interactions until I started attending Parkside in fall of
1981. I might also suggest contacting Terry Rasmussen: terry_rasmussen@yahoo.com - he also attended
Parkside, and also worked at TSR (dates unknown to me)
PAW was sponsored by Oliver Hayward (History Dept.)
Regards,
Rick
_____________
Email: November 13, 2024
“All of the above were part of the PAW: Parkside Association of Wargamers at the time, amongst others
Oliver Hayward (History) was the professor whom sponsored us. Background: the student council ruled
that all clubs have to have a set list of officers.
So we (PAW) came up with an eclectic set: Grand Inquisitor, President, VP, Treasurer, and Secretary.
Requirements for Grand Inquisitor were pretty strictly adhered to:
- former president
- former liason with TSR of Lake Geneva to GenCon @ Parkside.
Steve Bill was the first Grand Inquisitor. I missed on the President part.
Being the UWP coordinator with TSR was interesting - they had regular layoffs during those times (and
often impacted folks that we (PAW) felt were pretty competent, but kept narcissists and stuffed shirts
(Kim Eastland) around) At least once, they did a layoff of someone while they were on vacation.
TSR managed to acquire a fairly low reputation as a result, which inspired a spoof song lyrics: 'the lake
geneva hillbilies'. Needless to say, Ernie and Lisa Gygax were not revered.
_________
Email: November 13, 2024
Favorite memories:
- playing Dungeon with a high school friend - we used the English Dept. conference room My friend's
father was (I think) the head of the English dept. so we had permission to use it. It was a pick-up game a
couple of us participated in (all from the same high school)
Attendance:
- Prior to being a Parkside student (and member of PAW), I only did a day (maybe two - fuzzy memories)

�- Once I was a PAW member, worked all days as a volunteer. Only played in one event over the course of
the years. Might have been '83 or '84. Not sure which (I had a job interview in Wash DC the other year
so missed GenCon entirely)
I was living with my folks in Mt. Pleasant, so stayed there @ nights
Open Games:
- nope.
Purchases:
- various RPGs and dice. RPGs were "KABAL" (By Ernest Hamm), and some D&amp;D dungeons published
by (company name forgotten).
- I still have the KABAL (Kobalds And Beserkers And Legerdomain) rules/supplements. Friends from
UWP and I played this until I moved to MA at the end of 1984.
- When the dealer area was in the UWP fieldhouse, I acquired a boxed set of the original D&amp;D rules, and
got it autographed by Dave Arneson (co-creator of D&amp;D). I no longer have those booklets.
The last time I attended GenCon was one of the years it was in Milwaukee. Got a suite at the Pfister, and
shared it with friends. Not sure which year that was.
Impressions of GenCon today. My perceptions are from 1980s, but at that time the general impressions
that PAW members had were that TSR stood for 'They Sued Regularly' I have not attended since it
moved to indianapolis.
Re: public perceptions:
- mostly amused. My nephews occasionally played (prior to college == a couple of years ago). I've still
got a couple of early AD&amp;D books, including a copy of the 'Monster Manual' with Cthulhu mythos (TSR
got sued over that, and subsequently removed it) Cthulhu being from H.P. Lovecraft stories.
I know nothing about the shows mentioned (I only watch one show - The Curse of Oak Island)
Stigmata:
There was the (subsequently disproven) story about some sort of satanic connection with AD&amp;D mostly
via a student who got lost in the steam tunnels at some other university. Perhaps someplace in Indiana?
My take on the hype then was that it was done for religious/political reasons to gain publicity. Personally,
I completely dismissed such stories/complaints as garbage.
Publications re: AD&amp;D:
None

�Misc
.- you triggered another memory: for the volunteer staff, TSR passed some swag out each year. One year
it was the (first year of) AD&amp;D rules. some of the handouts to us (PAW) included some fairly unusual
misprints (missing a page or three, upside down pages). For more details on this, check with Bruce
Carson - I believe he got one of the 'funky' copies.
_____________
Email: November 15, 2024
*Questions from Heather*
A couple quick follow up questions:
* Do you remember the name of your friend's father (from the UWP English department)? TBH, I'm just
purely curious. I received my BA in English from UWP, so I'd be amused if it was someone who I would
eventually take classes from.
* Do you recall if Robert (Bob) Canary was involved with PAW? I found a few things in our Archive
noting his attachment as a faculty advisor along with Prof. Hayward, but I want to be sure that's correct.
__________________
My friend is Dick Canary - we were in high school together in Racine.
And his father is Robert Canary. If there was a connection between Robert and Oliver Hayward, I am
unaware of it.
When did you get your english degree @ UWP? It is possible that you had some overlap with other PAW
members (who were english majors)
Regards,
Rick
______________
Email: November 16, 2024
*Additional notes by Bruce Carson*
Rick,
A couple of corrections to your recollections!
K.A.B.A.L. is "Knights and Berserkers and Legendermain" (Not Kobolds), author is Ernest Hams (not
Hamm)

�The missing student was from Michigan..."James Dallas Egbert III". (I had to look up his last name).
Here's the Wikipedia on him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dallas_Egbert_III

James Dallas Egbert III - Wikipedia
James Dallas Egbert III (October 29, 1962 – August 16, 1980) was a student at Michigan State University
who disappeared for about a month from his dormitory room on August 15, 1979. The disappearance was
widely reported by newspapers and possibly other media, but it was never explained. Egbert's participation
in the fantasy role-playing game Dungeons &amp; Dragons was seized upon by ...
en.wikipedia.org

The authorities contacted TSR because they thought he might have come to Gen Con. So PAW members
spent an entire night searching for him (mostly on the D2 level). We were so tired the next day after
fruitless searching.
Bruce
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Email: November 16, 2024
Ahh - re: James Egbert. I missed out on that 'adventure' - I only joined PAW when I transferred to
Parkside in the fall of 1981, and remained a member until fall of 1984.
Rick

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